It should be a wake up call to any other firearms company out there, that just like S and W in the past, and their behind the scenes deals, the American firearms buying public doesn’t suffer fools very kindly, and it doesn’t pay to stand on the wrong side of the 2nd amendment. They work out of hotel rooms here in the heart of flyover country, pounding our legislators relentlessly along with our own homegrown gun control groups. I’ll second and vote “Aye!” on that motion. The cause, however, could not be more noble or honorable. I say welcome them to the fight. He has made phone calls and emails for contact prior to releasing the story. http://www.azcdl.org/html/accomplishments.html. Our good friend Mark Walters, host of Armed American Radio, had Rock River Arms general manager Sarah Larson on his Sunday “Monster Show.” (Here’s a link to the podcast.) Nothing but fake news. To be fair, Mr. Larson and Mr. Reese’s respective claims of not keeping up on what was happening in the Illinois General Assembly might be true. I suggest “ONE WEIRD TRICK FOR DESTROYING YOUR GUN MANUFACTURING BUSINESS!” would be an excellent title. I hope they can somehow magically stop this bill (for their sake…I own some SA products I like a lot), but I doubt it and I along with many others will hold them accountable if they don’t. They also serve who only sit and boycott. Senator Don Harmon, being the dedicated anti-gunner he is, introduced a slightly altered version again this year, SB-1657. You won’t see my money until I see yours in the hands of the groups doing the work you should have done! Because SA/RRA didn’t stop their opposition back then and the bill didn’t pass back then? Now, their change of stance is – again – ONLY focused on their bottom line because of the uproar from concerned citizens and their customers (I mean previous customers). As was also stated, hiring someone to lobby for them and then not knowing what that lobbyist was doing on important legislation that could affect their bottom line is difficult to believe. Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company based in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15/M16 type rifles, as well as complete firearms. The dang bill had to be edited to add that in. OUT OF STOCK (4) LWRC SIX8-A5 6.8 SPC. Absolutely correct about the names on the Articles of Incorporation. rock river arms (in stock) 3.1 (9) ar-15 le entry stock fixed carbine length. Gun Classifieds, Guns for Sale, No Fees, 45000 guns for sale. Consequences for your actions…when are we going to start expecting that? You welcome them? They aren’t sorry, they did all of this on purpose, they are just sorry they got caught. Like knowing their ad buys don’t buy silence? Whatever has happened up to now, I welcome these two companies to the front lines of the fight for gun rights in Illinois. Both companies vowed to vigorously fight for gun rights moving forward. I welcome you to the productive side of society. I am agahst at this whole mess. Thank you John. This time, we had lobbyists from many of the national gun control groups in Illinois working against us. You just wrote that IFMA was there fighting until nearly the end, when IFMA mysteriously went missing. RRA’s co-founder is Chuck Larson, who is also IFMA’s treasurer. Gross negligence at best. The Larson brothers severed their connection with Eagle Arms in 1997 when that firm moved to Geneseo, Illinois. In February, I placed calls to Chuck Larson at Rock River and Dennis Reese at Springfield. Get the inside scoop on jobs, salaries, top office locations, and CEO insights. Judas felt remorse at the end too, it did not go well for him either. Rock River Arms also produces M1911 pattern pistols in addition to rifles. That last paragraph goes right past slow learner to advanced window licking 101 with ease. Good luck stuffing it back in. The Illinois Senate passed SB 1657, the Gun Dealer Licensing Act’s official name, by only one vote. Our legislative team spends a lot of time at the capitol, and we all work behind them and support them. That story was written for a reason. They need the money to satisfy their greed. It is not law. I replied to them. Instead of being self-righteous here, and patting yourself on the back, thank those they REALLY wanted an XD or M1A but will now forego them to make a statement. It was the most vicious thing in the article, making their hypocrisy with regard to 2A plain as day by pointing out that now they ‘may’ be doing what they said they were this whole time). Over the weekend at the NRA convention, I reached out to both Reese and Larson. Recall Aesop’s fable of “The Farmer and the Viper.” It didn’t end well for the farmer. As for Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms: never bought anything from the latter, but I have owned two SA rifles. Springfield Armory has jumped into the gun rights fight in Illinois. The work is long, thankless and often frustrating. Use them for the fight now, make them crash and burn when the fight is over. Consequently, these people have every right to be upset at SA and RRA, regardless of what they did or did not do. When they finally got around to it, I’ve been wondering if they were truly misinformed or even uninformed… Or if they were backpedaling as a damage control or CYA procedure. It would take an impressive degree of incompetence for every other officer of the organization to miss what the one guy who wasn’t a part of either corporation was doing. Also Tom Reese, SA’s co-chairman, is secretary of IFMA. Even more damning is the fact that the lobbyist Jay Keller stated “No Position”. Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company based in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15/M16 type rifles, as well as complete firearms. I call them T-BAG. Money to anti gunner Dems goes back years! Not on this site in general, why are you here on this particular article trying to discredit TTAG’s reporting about these companies and yet don’t appear in the comments sections of other articles? [3] Parting ways with Les Baer in 1993, the Larsons began to build AR-15 type rifles for Eagle Arms in Coal Valley, Illinois. They are a cancer meant to divide us for personal gain. I warned him that if he cut a deal, the gun owning community would not look favorably upon it. They didn’t know the efforts of their own lobbyists working with politicians on a bill that would directly affect them? Arizona doesn’t fight alone.). He asked for proof. “You’re not answering my question, Jay. You DUMPED the genie out of the bottle, John. While the .300 AAC Blackout has continued to grow in popularity among shooters, the new LAR-300 X-1 rifle from Rock River Arms takes the cartridge to a whole new level of performance. Theirs are made of military spec steel this and that. rock river arms (in stock) 5.0 (2) ar-15/m16 9mm drop-conversion block. “Use them for the fight now, make them crash and burn when the fight is over.”. Go back to their original statements, it was all deny, deflect, make counter accusations. I also won’t be selling any of my 3 excellent Springfield firearms. DONT pretend for a second they’ve changed their views or are honest about working to defend rights now, they got what they want and now are feeding you all BS to the highest degree and you’re gobbling it up. More like knowing when you’ve won and being gracious in victory. It still must pass the House. Unbelievable. -that confused reporting concerned a different client which also operated lobbying via a shell firm. Therefore, a reasonable person might question whether this lobbyist created an empty shell corporation for each customer, and whether TTAGs reporting has been in some error because of a lack of ability or a lack of desire to understand this. 2,000 members? Larson called and spoke with me. Make a donation to these pro gun groups who are doing the work you say you support to the tune of twice what you paid the lobbiests! The largest free gun classifieds on the web. Who see the easy to follow facts and don’t blindly accept the corporate BS statements these rats pushed out after they got their exemption and AFTER they got found out. I hope my fears about this situation are disproven and that I will owe you an apology, and if I do I will appologize, but this is concerning and disappointing. But Rock River Arms’ response just set a much, much lower bar. I’ve never cared for Rock River Arms so none of my money or support has gone their way. Especially considering: True Lemmings!!! This is the Rock River Arms company profile. Boycotting is very effective. Not sure how they will lobby since they withdrew from their captive lobby group (as in there is no group without SA and RR). Stag Arms 15 Super Varminter 6.8 SPC. Apologies if I’m finding it difficult to suspend disbelief here; I simply think it a rather preposterous notion that Jay Keller alone is responsible for negotiating this little underhanded deal, and to accept SA and RRA’s claims to the such would seem to evidence either gullibility, or an overly forgiving attitude. It still must pass the House. Now you can welcome that. Me, too. His logic is sound, if you are going to have a round limit more energy per shot is a good thing. John, why didn’t you report on this in February when it might have done some good? If I ran a company, and my personal lobbyist “went rogue” and dropped a PR grenade like this in my lap, it wouldn’t take me five days to shit-can his ass. TTAG has a few gun company advertisers. Does anyone really believe he did that on his own, without input from his principals, SA and RRA? Springfield Armory, like Rock River Arms, was not aware of the actions taken by our trade association, IFMA, until after the fact. All content is posted anonymously by employees working at Rock River Arms. Low prices and fast shipping! -earlier reporting by TTAG confused actions on behalf of one client with another The fact that you could be bought off by a corporate statement (I hope that was all) is concerning. Congratulations on kicking that heroin habit and no longer beating your wife. From The Gun Writer. If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, — go from us in peace. Leave a penny, take a nickel huh bud? The fact is that the lobbying organization was the sole property of SA and RRA. OUT OF STOCK (0) LWRC SIX8-A5 6.8 SPC. Baghdad Bob Owens’s message: pay no attention to those men behind the IFMA curtain! Dennis Reese is a horrible human being. As an amalgamation of former models and concepts, including the Fred Eichler Series LAR-15, the X-1 brings together the best features from Rock River’s past and yet is a beast of its own kind. Industry rags, whether cars or tech or guns or whatever, are all-positive all the time because they’re paid by the companies they’re “reviewing” or writing news on. With all due respect to Mr. Boch, I don’t know how you can run the original viral article exposing the practices of these two companies, and then just as quickly turn around and buy their bullshit when they say “…ummm…uh…we totally didn’t know about that, guys. Otherwise… what’s your investment with these companies. Uh. Even if no one else had done any work to fight the bill – which we know from Mr. Boch isn’t the case – there is no reason for them to have either ignored what their own lobbyist (paid thousands to do the job) was doing or to have avoided Mr. Boch when he sought to determine where they stood on both the bill and on the story about concessions they were offered in exchange for taking “No Position”. Go on, let’s go.”. Carpetbaggers representing Everytown, Moms Demand, Gabby Giffords’ ARS and the Brady Campaign, to name a few, found their way to our fine state. Are you serious? Must be 21 to purchase. Rock River Arms LAR-15 Tactical Operator 2 with RRA Dominator2 EOTech Mount $1,399.99 $979.99; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: BB2512; Rock River Arms ATH ADVANCED TACT HUNTER CARBINE 5.56 $1,370.00 $1,369.99; Notify Me When Available; That’s when his witness slip showed up under “No Position,” meaning IFMA officially took no stance as to SB-1657’s passage. If SA and RRA were innocent, they would have spoken openly and truthfully to Boch, instead of avoiding him. But spec is just one element that go into a rifle. You do NOT go soft on people who backstab and destroy rights and you definitely do not believe or give credit to their BS they feed to all of us after they already got what they want. Glad to have you the team, gentlemen. I no longer need any marketing material from your company. Would they now be reduced to emails as the support mechanism? Got it too. Mr.Boch, you make no sense what so ever. But people must learn that actions have consequences. Chuck Larson, president and owner of Rock River Arms, also made a similar statement on May 1 saying the company is 100 percent against the Gun Dealer Licensing Act. In the end, we killed it off as part of an “all hands on deck” effort. They didn’t know anything about a bill that would directly affect them? Rock River Arms was founded 11 years ago by two brothers, Mark and Chuck Larson, who worked out of a garage. How is this being gracious in victory? “I’m working on a story about some campaign contributions your lobbying outfit, the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association, has made to some anti-gun Democrats. From The Gun Writer. He has repeatedly listed, including links and photos, the actual official documents that bury Rock River and Springfield. The entire thing is just a shame. It is time for Springfield and RRA to learn a lesson by taking a substantive hit on their bottom line. I explained how a number of those donations don’t appear to have been properly reported to the Illinois State Board of Elections. Of course, it all comes down on the top of the heads of management, for it was them who made the poor decisions to either follow this bad line of action, or who were so incompetent that they allowed their lobbying group to bring them down the same path. So this is where I ask: TTAG, are you *sure* you know what you’re talking about? I don’t always agree with John, but I believe he’s sincere and a tireless defender of our rights. Another traitor/crony among the faithful. Cannot see any other viable event, unless we speculate in the twilight zone that the paid lobbyist truly went rogue and kept the represented organizations completely in the dark. (Colona, IL) On Friday, April 5, 2013 Rock River Arms President, Mark Larson passed away at the age of 50. First, the initial articles about this incident were published on Friday. Bravo. As a result of Rock River Arms winning the DEA contract, other federal agencies, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation and United States Marshals, have also obtained Rock River Arms weapons under piggyback contracts. The Jay Keller is a RRA and SA employee, “…we didn’t know.” is irresponsible. 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