You should not generalize in such a manner. The biggest anti-climax to all of this would be if the country to which you went cancelled the post study work authorization for international students. “I’m average in academics, can I survive in USA”. Canada has the top courses with mind-blowing education and practical experience for advancement. After my high school, I was selected to join Cornell university (an Ivy league school) Unfortunately my parents couldn’t afford the high education fees and we did not want to take a loan. Will you feel it inappropriate then too or focus on his ideas and lectures? If some1 has real honest interest in academics then there is a bright career waiting for him(if some1 has that interest i’ll say he shud continue in the academic field itself.) remember those 85000 H-1B visas are for whole world and for employees-not necessarily indian students completing MS/Ph.D. I guess it was meant to be like that. not more than that but he/she able to influence so many minds with these little things. Last year H1B quota was filled and this year it will be filled. Well TCS do give 2 years of leave after completion of 2 years but only on the cost of returning to it, More that 2 years can’t be taken consideration under exp. My major is Computer Science. This isnt an article which is supposed to be published in a school textbook. From my university in Omaha everybody got a job and almost everybody sponsored them an H1B and I am the best example, without any reference or network I got 2 internships for full time summer and continues part time in fall and this was through job fair in our college and everybody from my batch MIS and CS I can say 100% of the people got internships here. 3. what is the value of that course in US and India? But now after spending 2 whole years in US I completely agree with this article . Nice to see you still stand up to what is written in this article 5 years after it was originally written :). Be it politics, be it space research, be it IT, be it Automotive, be it Electronics, be it Entrepreneurs. But I got an internship for this summer and it boosted my confidence. He hasn’t even talked any where about job principles and working. Its always good to have an extra hand. IT Consulting job After MS - Training and Placements If you are looking for a IT Consultancy in USA to provide Job in Software field you can contact Blueseasolutions LLC. Im going to try for admission in one of the ivy league colleges for master’s in USA. So if you go in with ur avg mindset u’l be avg be it U.S or India. I am 19 years old. I will be taking GRE exam by 2013. frm wht u said it looks dat germany is promising. Electronics is a vast field. I am doing my B.A. I think it is over exaggerated. This is How You Write a Perfect Resume That Gets Job Interview,,,, Then, there was no sham of a masters degree. the companies blatantly misuse the facts that indians will work for lesser salary than the americans. My son has completed MS in Embedded system and has not got a job in US. If i have completed my MS, and apply for a job in US, will they consider my MBA and experience??? Just I want to study in US and work in canada and settle in canada only. See if your industry is really good in the US with a lot of openings or is it better off in India. You can start your job search at:; ; Canadian employers will require a résumé rather than the UK standard CV and covering letter. Also which field (design, manufacturing, …) has good scope and more chances of getting a job!! Curious to hear your response, because I didn’t like the tone of your article, even though I realize it was just meant to be as objective as possible.. Hi Prithvi, It’s part of H4 Visa Career Guide. I couldn’t find the interview with Harsha. Poornima – Job market depends on your efforts and skills and computer science has lot of jobs than other fields but and employers are hesitant to hire F1 students due to H1B Lottery. Government of Canada jobs . Search jobs posted by employers across Canada, get matched with a job. The post is really informative!! !I have consulted seniors there and they have said that Campus Fairs conducted in the university give importance only to domestic students!! It means that the risk factor, which might differ from student to student, is low. keep a budget of 20 lakhs atleast. Waiting for your third and concluding article. Best way to enter this industry is by doing a PG diploma course here or a Mtech course(only from BITS or IITs or NITs). Or does the design field have story to tell? How many have returned back being that disappointed ? If what I have read is true then I will be very happy to drop down my plan and persuade for M Tech in India instead. Watch the interview I did with Harsha (search in the blog). Then I found this post and read the comments. ), getting a job now in the US, in this economy is not as easy as it used to be. Having said that I do agree on showing discretion in choosing universities and not having a bump in the payscale as the prime motive for Masters. Please have him check out the Career Lab Course –, Thanks for the enocuraging response . You will have access to their entire undergrad lectures, notes, assignments and handouts. Blame that on that large number of students who go abroad to study, which has reduced the sheen on a foreign degree or on the fact that most recruiters simply don’t give a shit about your degree and focus on industry specific skills. Getting a PR is a bit easier in Canada while in the US it is a slightly lengthier process. A résumé is designed to be more concise and tailored to each individual job … I fully appreciate the strong logic and request prospective students who are interested for higher study in should think twice without any illusion of mind,considering present job situation in USA.We may like the conversion amount in Indian Currency but how much you can save ,matching with the standard of living and uncertainty in job situations ,particularly after recession of 2008. Some say going Ireland is also an option, the study is comparatively cheaper and also work options are available there. At the federal level, the current government has made it easier for international graduates to achieve Canadian immigration by introducing points under Canada Express Entry. India is a global semiconductor hub and every major MNC (like TI or Intel) has offices here where substantial design work is done. The reason being that above stated points like dreams and salary in US are based on simple assumption that he will land up with the job the moment his education will…, Does America need International STEM OPT Students? Regards Most Chinese in the US are returning to their country and contributing. If you’re looking for a job in Canada, you need to have a resume–not a CV–to begin your job search. Considering how desperate I was to move here 3 years ago you’d think that I’m excited that the future is looking positive for me. I hope that would give some people a reason on why to go for MS rather than why not to. Guess what ?, the one in Dubai is earning the most n living the best. The article isnt addressed to people like you. Could you tell me a few details about your experience at “one of the above” and how easily you got a job. I just check out one post of someone saying that after completing MS in aerospace from USA u won’t get recruit in US Companies due to security matter. i have only a year of experience in india . dude iam expecting a good reply not a forced retort…. some of the words meaning you have to search in a dictionary. If you join Infosys your stream will be diverted. Also, how hard is it to get a meaningful internship in the summers? Twenty six of those are ranked among the best in the world, according to Times Higher Education’s World University Rankings 2016-17 (2019 data shows 27 universities). People have their opinions and their style of expressing their ideas. The main criteria which makes a candidate eligible for the work permit is a minimum study duration of eight months in a Canadian designated learning institution. You just reinforced the Option 1 and how to get a job in USA. The best way to combat the pitfalls presented in this article is by getting financial aid. Please Reply me. Now after that rather lengthy discussion about the first option, lets take a look at your second option. That made me realize that this article is only going to lead up to that option. If you want to have an argument, then post the question to the actual author and ask why he thinks reality is ugly or bad. Canada is a high-cost, high-tax country, and it can be quite tough to make it there. I am confident they will tell you they are in Software or have a job that involves computer skills. I’m not doing my job right if there are not criticism. Till then peace out! How much of an importance does MS in Computer Networking hold? Secondly your idea of a disclaimer is completely wrong. Remember whenever you see info on salary levels, etc, taxes take more than half of that off the top. But make sure that is not your only motive. This is the internet, everyones hiding here boss. Good Lord , after reading this My immediate reaction , Nope I am not going to USA(And a little depressed of course ).. So I forgot about my big dreams and studies in Delhi university instead. It becomes his responsibility to discuss the real time experiences not some theoretical bullshit. There are several options if you can’t find a job after graduating getting Masters degree in USA. This is something we need to learn from them and try using these values here too.. I am asking for some of your guidance All this said, I dont want to make any personal attack on you by retorting to your muppet comment, because theres no point in doing it. This post helped answer my question that’s been pricking my mind time and again. I have some queries. Two visas popular among young people are F-1 … Dont go ballistic on me too! If you are fortunate enough to be born in a country where thinking of doing MS in Canada or USA is encouraged, then anything is possible for you in this world. and I’m sorry to hear about your metro experience! You can contact the bookstore manager directly to inquire about job openings. Upside of MS from USA vs Job here is one major factor and I don’t think I need to answer that as it has been discusses in several previous posts. Or end me an email with questions. Only thing needed for survival is HOPE. The Canadian institutions prepare graduates with the ability to think critically. To be eligible to get a permit to work after study in Canada, the candidate has to fulfill certain preconditions. If you ask me it helps people understand better the challenges that lie ahead of them. I graduated in August of 2016. I am curious, how would you rate your self, are you intelligent or average or below that, do not take it as offence, I just want to know my intelligence level and picture the possibities of doing as good as you. Core subjects, BIG NO. I am working civil engineer .I am in confusion(But i really wanted to do MS in U.S.A). is it better to try for other Countrys like Canada, germany? hence plan for post graduation which one is best Y is it so then if its so like what you have said ? Fresh off the boat people like you just help in reinforcing the typical “Thank you, come again!” Indian stereotype. To Do you think the second path will be easier than the reverse? Please guide, help and oblige. So if you went to the US to get a masters in VLSI and wanted to a career as a VLSI engineer, you wont find a lot of openings for your level of experience unless of course you re really worth hiring or you have lots of references within the industry. Currently O am preparing for GRE. For Research, whether Ph.D. or Post Doc, in-hand salary is low. Trust me there are a lot of jobs in the US..only problem is H1 B visa and nothing else..small companies do not want to sponsor after the recession..and getting into big companies is tough..but nothing is impossible.. Students have moved their center interest from UK and US to countries like Canada, Germany, and Australia.These countries have seen an increase in the intake … That singular event caused such an overhaul of America’s immigration and security systems that after 9/11 you’d be joking if you directly applied for a job in America from India and hoped to get a H1-B. Look around you and ask the people who have jobs and further ask them what work do they do. To add to your woes, getting a H1-B also isn’t. US job market is bigger than the Canadian Job market. There’s plenty of length articles on how to find jobs and free job search bootcamp course as well. Please let me know your experience if you have seen guys like who are 28 or 29 pursuing masters program 😀, I am Ashwin rajkumar from Salem I’ve met u once in Salem I’m doing my PhD at NYU want a consultation in my future studies help me out. I am from EC background, so i just want to do something that is related to EC. hello HSB n prithvi pls reply to my query as soon as possible,iam interested to pursue MS(CS) in US but due to some reasons i had taken my UG in ECE and also i had a offer from TCS…..but what i had listened from my friends if u had 2 yrs of work exposure top universities will prefer you rather than regular students is it true or not and that to after 2 yrs iam going to get sabastical leave which i can join in tcs after 2 yrs of MS(if i had no job after MS) and at the time of campus placements is this work exposure worthful or not? And what options are there after a PhD, because I don’t want to go into teaching. they will get into univs which rank between ( 70-110) because of the acads they have secured, then what about the perspective of job and future for them ? this is the picture u have painted – After masters all search for a job. To apply for a job in Canada, whether you already live there or not, you’ll need to organize a bit of paperwork, search for a job, fill out the application, and attend an interview. Lets take it from where I left off in my previous post – Education in USA – Is it Worth The Cost? So please stop looking at US news rankings to decide on a university, unless you make it to an Ivy league school, because, frankly speaking you’re employers don’t give a rats ass about which university your from! 1st thing is first i m average student i never got job in core field Glad to find this blog. Every student is on their own and just like a college degree, finding a job search is a skill that requires learning (just random search and apply) will not work. I have been working for more than a year now. Can you please explain me about this issue. I am from middle class family. hey man i also want to pursue MS in MIS , can you give me some advice that is it worth considering specially whruen the visa rules are getting strict? Hi..I have my bachelors degree in DENTISTRY from India. Then I want to shift to Canada by job. For postgraduate courses, Canadian academic institutes accept up to 5 years of study gap. Not some AskRaghu. This is the only way to help yourself. The management is currently discussing if the answer is YES or NO and I will know in a few days. Excellent post! You never see most of your pay - gone to taxes before you get a check. I am now working in TCS from past 9 months. Looks like you’re underpaid. Joining Infy wont help you and after 2 yrs you wont be able to masters in electrical. Now to get to the point (I know its about time! I mean about the ratio of getting a job to that of not getting. Thankyou. Which will allow you to work with any job provider company, employer, and anywhere in Canada? Correct me if i am wrong? Read the comments in the H1B visa 2015 post. . The only solution to get a job with a visa is, you apply for a permanent residence visa procedure or Working Holiday Visa in Canada. MS in Canada vs MS in Europe Its your job, to take the good and bad stuff and see whats the net result for your particular case. Let me tell you one more thing, nearly 30 yrs back, my dad dint even have a college degree. Came to U.S got myself another MBA and unable to get a job here, finally i ended up doing following the herd. The salary is also decent (very much better than IT companies). Congratulations to Prithvi and HSB for being brave enough to publish this article. OPT is 12 months and STEM-OPT-Extension is 24 months… so total time is 3 years.. I have done 4 years of bachelor’s in Electrical Engineering and fromnlast 2 year I am working as a Design Engineer in one of the leading building services company handling HVAC, FIRE, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING systems designing. Seek your advice. That was merely to indicate that people here should focus on the article not the language used. Some people buy a new car or a house with their loans. Only 8 univs are part of the league namely Cornell,harvard,princeton,Penn,Dartmouth,Duke ,brown and columbia.. What you wrote is absolutely true. Just curious about ur choice.. Hey Rohith, I am 2015 passed out in electronics and instrumentation. HI Im karthik. All the best to all who are willing to be brave and pursue their dreams, if you are truthful in your intentions, definitely this decision will pan out. thanks for rectifying of such a discharging post.. thanx a lot for ur supportive and motivative statement dude 🙂, I agree with you Life is difficult but what you haven’t realized is that even if you happen to be average after MS, that is still better than your current average level. Jobs in national security and defence . It’s the official job site for the federal government. I am doing 3rd year B.Tech BIOTECHNOLOGY . infact very low. Best thing would be to wait and improve your profile to land in a better(safe in terms of fee and recognition) university. So far i didn’t get any rly.. Is it very difficult to get a biotech job in USA.. “frankly speaking you’re employers don’t give a rats ass about which university your from!” There are several options if you can’t find a job after graduating getting Masters degree in USA. The work here is really good and core engineering (Audio and video domain). Please reply sir. I actually did an event just on this topic – H4 – Colleges, Courses and Career. Also, Canada allows most graduates of Canadian educational institutions to obtain "post-graduation" work permits, provided you studied in Canada for at least eight months. My query is, when i am returning back to the company do i have to start from where i left or do i get a job profile and package which suits my additional qualification ? Things holding me back: I still have a good Rs. Search for jobs, including ones in high demand. 1. It also depends on individual efforts and references. Why You Should Work Few Years Before Studying Abroad. The Canadian institutions prepare graduates with the ability to think critically. Destination Canada Information Inc.’s “Prepare for Canada” program helps prospective immigrants to prepare for success in Canada by delivering quality seminars and information focusing on job preparedness and settlement first steps, operating overseas and in-Canada … Our Honorable Prime Minister : Spent time with our brave soldiers and security forces at Longewala in Rajasthan. A Phd. Hence, if you are planning to get job in Canada from India as a skilled worker, it’s the perfect time to apply Permanent residency (PR) visa as the first step. If there was a way for me to know that I can for sure secure a high paying job that will help me pay off my loan, I wouldn’t mind having a humble lifestyle till that happens. Also, I feel there is no point in telling people who are US education aspirants the bad parts of US because they ll never even consider your opinion. Also, one universal truth is, the US is the best place for research and a career in academia. Now he is applying internship, pl tell me whether opportunities are there, or any source agency to get the internship. Please reply sir. So be industry specific. Some of you might not agree to the argument I’m going…, Following  Article was written by Ashish Arora. In fact, probably 20 years ago, in the 90s, when this whole mass exodus of India’s tech talent to the US reached its crescendo, most people went to the US directly on a H1-B work visa(a lot of which were on offer then when compared to now) which gave birth to a whole lot of rags to riches stories of Indians making it big in the US. You can do MS from Canada, then take a job in Canadian company which has presence in USA and then later get yourself transferred to USA through the company itself. I would say go for UCinn. I more than before want to do MS coz am not happy with my job. In November 2016, Comprehensive Ranking Systempoints were added for three-year post secondary, master’s, professional degrees and doctorates (30 CRS points) and post-secondary diplomas lasting one or two years (15 CRS points). Im trying to make you see this article in an objective light. One more thing, I think people in this blog are very intolerant about people talking bad things about the US(like this article does) but are ok with dissing India. So have you returned to india? I think anyone should revise there decision if they want to go without scholarship. Agree that for Phd or Post-doc salary is low but you have to remember that as a Phd student you get a stipend or research assistant ship which is not equivalent to a full-time job in some big MNC. You can use this form – Now, I assume you are from a Non- Computer Science background. After doing job for 1yr to 1 and 1/2 yr I will apply for fall 2014 for MS in CS. And I’m sure this will be one of the best decisions I’d have taken. Yes you can – I knew the job scenario was bad in US, but never knew its this worse. Government of Canada jobs . Purpose of the blog is to give an objective view about life in USA, not to paint a rosy picture. Thanks. Am I right, HSB? What do you think are the opportunities in Canada. so i dont understand what i am suppose to do Can you suggest me which course i can take up to persue my masters? You can do MS from Canada, then take a job in Canadian company which has presence in USA and then later get yourself transferred to USA through the company itself. This is harsh reality which unfortunately many people do not want to listen. I greatly appreciate the article and thank you for throwing light on further prospects. Source: Answer at Quora. will i get admission in some good univ Requesting blog link for discussion about J1 students and job prospectus on HSB for them. Plus this is a blog. do indians get jobs there in construction? Its not that there are more opportunities for VLSI in America, but still, since you really want to go I cannot stop you. Your post is helpful and realistic but it also demotivates some talented students who are capable of getting a Job in US. Follow-up the comments policy and schedule a consulting session to discuss. You can do MS from Canada, then take a job in Canadian company which has presence in USA and then later get yourself transferred to USA through the company itself. Next time, try and understand the premise of the article before belittling it so vehemently, misconstruing and taking out of context what the author is saying. so the whole point here is…studying in US or abroad is a waste of time? Please advise. My scores are 1160 in GRE and 101 in toefl and i hav 68% in my BE. First of all i must say your article is very hard-hitting. International students need to entirely depend on references from their professors or rely on professional networking to get a job, or even an internship. This is exactly what happened in the UK. Pack Your Bags – This is like the most feared option for most people studying abroad. I was hoping to get back to india but seeing in different forums about the situation of job in india for a foregin degree holder my chances look bleak. But few personal reasons forced me to take up the job. Thats how things really work here. It was a genius plan and it did work for some time. Please advise. Learn about some of the steps you can take before you arrive to ease your transition to life in Canada. But, the 2008 recession screwed its effectiveness and the present crop of Indian students going to study abroad, hoping to replicate the success of their predecessors, are largely unaware of this fact(Hell, the present crop is largely unaware of why they’re going in the first place!). MS in Canada vs MS in Europe My son has just completed MS- BIOINFORMATICS FROM US . your suggestion please. You dont have to pity the ppl who goes back. Also, Canada allows most graduates of Canadian educational institutions to obtain "post-graduation" work permits, provided you studied in Canada for at least eight months. Whats listed in this post is actual reality. It was only a suggestion to HSB, since he owns this widely popular blog and I would like to think that there is more to it than just swear words, which there is. (not with COVID-19). Student employment . r u suggesting that he/she should rub his ‘rat ass’ in india which has a ‘bullshit’ education system… Even more so with the recent CAB and other political scenarios. Top 50 Best Job Opportunities in Canada for Immigrants in 2021 Sales Representative A good Sales Representative can make a business successful, which is why they are some of the most in-demand skilled workers in Canada, with more than 8,500 vacancies posted online on a weekly basis. It will help me to find a path and shape my carrier. Did you know over 20,000 students apply for H1B Visa? UCLA is a good school. I wanted to change my career as I’m more interested in IT. I’m going for Fall 2018 and chasing the American dream…, Hi I am Adeel Awan .. Calling All Grads Turn a Degree Into a Job is MUST Buy for any college student. will it be a wise decision ? As far as financial aid is concerned i don’t think i will be able get a penny from my family. Vanderbilt also is a great place to do research in most areas, I dont know what yours is. So which matters more projects or GPA. So to sum it up, there aren’t that many jobs, with that you have an additional constraint of narrowing down your search to employers who are ready to sponsor an H1B and to add to that you have a limited time to do that. Lessons from my bad MS degree experience in USA By Rohit. The author too takes this into consideration. I have read your reply on Mr.Raju’s comment. Some students in their desperation also end up at job consultancies which only really offer a lot of IT contract based jobs. Could you kindly help me out how to get scholarship without TOEFL and GRE ? So, just one article shouldn’t drive your decision. !It is University of Cincinnati!! dude he corrected the first option u presented. It’s the official job site for the federal government. It’s his hate for Trump or maybe he was the who had to pack backs. Hi, I want to do MS in landscape architecture.Please tell me whether opportunities are there, or any other source for settle there. 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